Fill in the blanks for me here, I'm not sure what you are saying or pointing to, exactly. 11%?
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The Coming Confiscation of Financial Assets
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I see you are a believe in slow degradation into something other than what people historically know as far as standard of living, but at least decreasing standard of living. They can keep the worsening system somewhat afloat with printing? For how long - and while the rich get to the point of owning nearly everything? Again, without pitchforks?
Anything is possible, but I think they know the writing is on the wall and even the demons they worship can at best guess at probabilities, though I do think the evil spirits know what is possible in the tech/human modification/transhumanist realm.
Exactly. I don't believe in pitch forks.
I believe more in a slow death, like Rome, that slowly the people that are able to do stuff just leave, as I think we see in many of the richest cities; no handymen, no car repair men, no house builders, hard to find anyone with skills. Just a bunch of elites in purper mantles that print money and do perverted stuff. We will slowly realize the emperor has no clothes.
They are guided by evil spirits for sure.
The devil doesn't perform "wonders" though. They want to make us believe the devil is powerful; with the nukes, and implants, or other "transhumanist" crap. I believe these are all lies. The devil has no actual power. The devil is a seducer. A propagandist. All he does goes through men or women. Like Eve taking the fruit. The people do his work.
He wants us to fear him more than we fear God. That's the game I think.
Psalm 91
"You will tread on the lion and the cobra; you will trample the great lion and the serpent."
God is way bigger. Stronger. We have to see through their lies; like that Harari fool, or those deceiving politicians.
After 2020/21, yes. During the lockdowns people's livelihoods were destroyed without so much as a whimper. And they're still being destroyed by the ever increasing restrictions that the UN agenda 2030 & the Green lobby has imposed that are crushing the small businesses. The only people who are putting up an effective pushback are farmers, who we should all be supporting, unless we want to be eating goyslop in the coming years.
I agree with you here.
I also can see myself as one of these, with (anti)freedom/taxes/feminism all pushing normal and successful men out.
You're right, this thread could be retitled, "The ongoing confiscation of financial assets".
Home prices inflating means that young people are unable to buy, whereas Boomers and etc get to sell with capital gains taxes of 23% federal AND 14% state(I'm from California), so they get to pay massive penalties just to sell and move.
And the hyperfinancialisation after 1972 made that not labour is the object of currency but the fake dollar.
Like now, the people that make money are people who take loans for a house or loans for stocks.
We live in a weird kind of communism where the communist party has struck a deal with the billionaires.
We should find a new name for it. I don't even know what to call it.
- A political system that drives smaller groups in perversion and then champions them for it. These groups steal, rape, sodomize, are arrogant, obnoxious gangs, "students" and are godless.
- There is a working class, that is taxed to oblivion, these people are shamed constantly.
- These is a bourgeois working at corporates, the state and large tech firms. Well paid. Fully replaceable. A class of nodders.
- There is a ruling class of billionaires, patent keepers and political functionaries at the UN and states.
Maybe it's financial feudalism. It's not communism, there is absolutely no elevation of the working man.
It looks like the the guilds in the Netherlands, the Dutch Golden age.
Dutch Golden Age - Wikipedia
Basically some rich elites, some patent holders (the guilds), a powerful state.
In this Dutch golden age, the people were cattle, only a perverted elite self-congratulated all the time.
These guys walked around in white leggings, white collars and heels.
I feel that's today.
The working class, is being pushed over, and if this cattle doesn't work for the low salary, you just import cattle from Africa.
Maybe that's the best comparison, a new Dutch "Golden" Age but then American.
I've heard the term techno-feudalism being used. Capitalism assumes growth and the elites have moved on from that model. What is coming will be entwined with tech as well. You can already see it with how monetization works on youtube and social media. We basically farm for their companies by participating in it, and are tightly regulated/controlled. This system will grow and continue to subsume present governance forms.
I agree with you about financial feudalism. One of my tenants resents me because he's helped pay my mortgage for years. I wouldn't blame most people for that, but he's made some shockingly bad career choices.And the hyperfinancialisation after 1972 made that not labour is the object of currency but the fake dollar.
Like now, the people that make money are people who take loans for a house or loans for stocks.
We live in a weird kind of communism where the communist party has struck a deal with the billionaires.
We should find a new name for it. I don't even know what to call it.
It's all grantly manipulated, interest rates, stocks, monopolies.
- A political system that drives smaller groups in perversion and then champions them for it. These groups steal, rape, sodomize, are arrogant, obnoxious gangs, "students" and are godless.
- There is a working class, that is taxed to oblivion, these people are shamed constantly.
- These is a bourgeois working at corporates, the state and large tech firms. Well paid. Fully replaceable. A class of nodders.
- There is a ruling class of billionaires, patent keepers and political functionaries at the UN and states.
Maybe it's financial feudalism. It's not communism, there is absolutely no elevation of the working man.
It looks like the the guilds in the Netherlands, the Dutch Golden age.
Dutch Golden Age - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
Basically some rich elites, some patent holders (the guilds), a powerful state.
In this Dutch golden age, the people were cattle, only a perverted elite self-congratulated all the time.
These guys walked around in white leggings, white collars and heels.
I feel that's today.
The working class, is being pushed over, and if this cattle doesn't work for the low salary, you just import cattle from Africa.
Maybe that's the best comparison, a new Dutch "Golden" Age but then American.
The bourgeoise is also taxed at insane rates.
If you are in a skilled trade, you're in very high demand, and no one wants to work in the big trades anymore; you get to name your price.
South Park isn't wrong about the Handyman bits:
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Some say it's neo-feudalism. I just think it is the unique combo of subverting a wealthy country to communist tenets. It elevates common people, but found that more chaos is achieved of course when you elevate the incompetent or degenerate - but you have to have some sort of technological backbone or a somewhat reliable structure to build on, which they do. Of course it's crumbling, but hey, that's why we're hear discussing it.
Interesting thought, as if our mind are colonized. Our attention as the farmland.
The bourgeoise is also taxed at insane rates.
It is, but they are also paid with the tax, so its a weird system. I know quite some government workers that complain about the taxes. People are paid in tax and taxed again.
It's a strange economy. Anyhow its very manipulated; the stock exchange is so manipulated. The labour market.
And today you might be good as a worker for hire. But tomorrow it might be different.
And It's easy to say people made bad career choices, but i guess nobody knows beforehand.
Those that "won" made strange choices; mostly taking huge loans.
It seems this disbalance is part of it. Constantly shifting, Disoriented. Wars everywhere.
No roots. No calm. No tradition. No God.
It's very nervous economy as well.
On a daily base, the largest stocks can move 10% up or down.
Yes, I think this is correct. It bleeds into what worship should be.
We should be giving our attention to God with the body of Christ in reality.
Not giving our attention to what amounts to ego, pride, and our own passions while alone in virtual un-reality.
It's a complete inversion. And it seems it can only intensify from here.
We do have some agency, but we are certainly pinballs in this game. There are a lot of constraints out there.
RedLagoon is from Australia. In Australia employers are forced to pay 11% of your base pay (and 12% from July 2025) into "superannuation" which is kind the Australian equivalent of American IRAs, etc. So in Australia if you have a job for example earning $1000 per week your employer must send $110 to your retirement account in addition to paying you the $1000. Keep in mind the 11% is based on base pay not on pay including extras such as overtime and bonuses etc. Originally it was induced in Australia in 1992 and the government bargained with employers to introduce it (it was lower than 11% at the time though) by foregoing the normal inflation pay rises for a number of years originally.
It is tax advantaged but in most circumstances you cannot withdraw it until you are old so kind of similar to IRAs in that way.
That's the whole purpose of the exercise. They don't want a functioning stable economy and by no means will they ever again allow a stable social fabric based on tradition, strong borders, and a shared culture. Every single policy that has been implemented over the past half plus century stands in direct contradiction to anything that would benefit native Western populations. The goal is deconstruct and dismantle until there's nothing of us left. We are obviously getting pretty close, and what follows is a global war in order to reduce the world's population by a few billion.
Biden's proposed gigantic capital gains rate hike will only affect people who are quite wealthy, for now. Add another 5-10 years of inflation and "well off" people could be caught by it, even if they don't adjust it for inflation, which would surprise me because it'd mean less gov't revenue. In 15-20 years the capital gains could affect most people earning the equivalent of $100k today.
My state also just passed a bill making landlords need to provide "just cause" not to renew tenant leases. I have some tenants that kinda suck, they pay on time but are super messy. Nothing crazy, so I've been waffling about whether or not to renew their leases. This might push me into doing whatever I can to hike prices so they get out. Ironically I'll be more "mean" as a landlord because of this pro-tenant law.
My state also just passed a bill making landlords need to provide "just cause" not to renew tenant leases. I have some tenants that kinda suck, they pay on time but are super messy. Nothing crazy, so I've been waffling about whether or not to renew their leases. This might push me into doing whatever I can to hike prices so they get out. Ironically I'll be more "mean" as a landlord because of this pro-tenant law.
I'd think something will break including more and more productive people leaving. It's funny to me that people don't see BTC as the way out, especially as all fiat continues to go to zero.
Yes, just like the income tax initially, then CTR and other things not adjusting for inflation, they set a bar and then inflate the currency so as to control/surveille, more and more of where it goes.
I think the USA just turns into more of a LatAm reality. I'm on record as saying I think population loss will be great, but I'm unsure anymore. It'll decrease for sure moving ahead, but I'm not sure as much as I originally thought. I guess we'll find out a lot by the end of the decade.
I don't know if we even need a global war to reduce the population. Living costs, self-hating culture, and chemicals in everyday goods making us less fertile.
There are a few nations with net negative population growth, but global population growth is still positive. The rate of global population growth have been decreasing slowly, but I think with current trends it will still be a number of years before global population tops off and starts to decline. I think at least five, and maybe 10.
Right now, there are a few regions that still have very high birth rates, mostly poor areas in Africa and India, I think. These areas can still have women with an average of 5-6 kids. However, I think as these areas enter the market economy, and these women start getting schooling and employment, their birthrates will drop like the rest of the world.
Of course, it is possible some kind of black swan will happen, such as long term increasing death rates from cancer caused by the vaxx. However, I think most likely the population will not start to decline until global birth rates drop farther.
I posted in Bitcoin Thread but it can also go here.
Roger Ver was arrested for tax-fraud. He did not declared all the bitcoins he had before renouncing his US citizenship.
He was libertarian and despised government. He was arrested for selling firecrackers online and was a big promoter of bitcoin.
US government is going to put him in prison and definitely will try to confiscate his bitcoins.
protos.com
Roger Ver was arrested for tax-fraud. He did not declared all the bitcoins he had before renouncing his US citizenship.
He was libertarian and despised government. He was arrested for selling firecrackers online and was a big promoter of bitcoin.
US government is going to put him in prison and definitely will try to confiscate his bitcoins.
Roger Ver arrested for tax fraud while promoting Bitcoin book
Within four weeks of publishing his first full-length book on Bitcoin’s history, Spanish authorities arrested Roger Ver for tax fraud.
protos.com